Steve R demonstrates use of the SDHGPA calendar for seeing meeting agenda on website
Welcome to new members.
Can annual/temp membership be paid for at the meetings?
Yes & No. Not directly, as all is on line. Memberships can be paid, and Membership Forms can be completed anywhere from your phone or commuter via the SDHGPA Website. Once you've completed the online forms, Membership Cards & Status is updated automatically. Membership via paper forms can be problematic as many received are not legible.
Site Updates
Welcome to new members.
Can annual/temp membership be paid for at the meetings?
Yes & No. Not directly, as all is on line. Memberships can be paid, and Membership Forms can be completed anywhere from your phone or commuter via the SDHGPA Website. Once you've completed the online forms, Membership Cards & Status is updated automatically. Membership via paper forms can be problematic as many received are not legible.
Site Updates
Bill Helliwell
Laguna
- Laguna permit fees have gone up. We only need 2 things: Access to the Anza Borrego State Park launch, and landing in Earthquake Valley. For the past 10 years that has been $500 annually + $100 permit fee.
In 2018 it dropped to no annual fee, just the $100 permit fee. In 2019 permit fee remained at $100 but the annual fee jumped to $1,200. Bill H will coordinate with head ranger to see why fees have gone up. May have to do with them writing the permit up as an Event Permit vs Special Use Permit. We’re asking for the following us that has no facilities and required no overhead of park staff:
- Truck trail vehicle access to the Upper launch (mostly hangs)
- Waiver for 500’ over ground at launch/landing
- Ability to maintain trail & upper launch
- Ability to Land in Earthquake Valley LZ (in the ABSP)
National forest offices are closed due to govt shutdown (delays filing permit for Big Black and other sites)
Palomar
Pala Tribe has requested we not use the dumpster for loose trash after a trash problem following the last fly in. Anything that goes into dumpster must be bagged. Recycle bin is fair game for recycling.
Do not stay past dusk in Palomar. Use is for Day Use only.
Otay
Tom (hang glider) talks about Otay Mesa, states it’s “No more.” Brad and Ethan have flown it in the last month and said it was fine. Need to check with Josh Gelb for lock access at Otay
Little Black
Jeff - Update on weather station at Little Black. We're waiting to hear back from Ranger about the 3 possible places we can put it.
Blossom
El Cap weather station. Nik working with San Diego River Park Foundation to place a weather station on land they own or manage on El Cajon mountain.
Why not put a station on Blossom?
-Private land without permission
-Increases liability to owner and raises our profile unnecessarily.
-Anything we have put up at Blossom like site protocols have been vandalized.
Video demo of Blossom Google Earth site guide
General Request
Invite to members to post articles on the SDGHPA site, reach out to Steve R or Nik H with ideas.
New Board announced
(See blog post)
Minor issues:
Instruction at SDHGPA sites like Palomar is allowed as long as the School is PASA certified and registered to instruct at the specific site with SDHGPA. See SDHGPA Instruction Policies & Protocols for more information. Torrey or other non-PASA schools shouldn’t be instructing at SDHGPA sites 1- 6 in the Site guide (Sites with Additional Insured Landowners) until they become PASA certified and register with SDHGPA. This presents a risk to the Site, SDHGPA, and landowners. Those sites / Locations are:
We would like to coordinate with Torrey to have a path to the mountains for new Torrey pilots.
Darryl at Soboba has closed the school there.
Medical course proposed via David Hatfield
All parties interested.
Rough schedule for fly-ins and meeting topics
-skill progression classes (thermal, XC, gaggle fly, convergence, Laguna/specific sites)
Steve R discussion re P3 or P4 being ready for Laguna.
BBQ in LZ at Laguna has been done in years past in off months (Feb/March) that was OK for newer P3, otherwise it is really a P4 site.
Tom (HG pilot) curious about paramotors and the SDHGPA, given the comparison to jetskis showing up at a surf break
Situational awareness as the intro part of any class suggested by Brad S.
Next Fly In Dates
3 weeks out needed in order to submit notice
Feb 16th, annual awards ceremony.
Accident Lessons Learned
Max:
-in New Zealand
-complacent
-not having a ton of SA
-focused on a brake wrap
-crashed and broke his back
Marge:
Pilot Error
-impatient to do other activities
-state of mind
-put herself in a bad spot
-inReach out of battery
Factors in Speed of Rescue
-other pilots watching track logs
-checking with a flying buddy
-LiveTrack on her phone worked
-Phil Russman initiated search for THAT night (commendation/recognition!)
Contact Made
-hypothermic when found, facedown
-no med assessment performed on site by PG pilots
-unable to stand, only said “Shit”, staggered and fell
-carried to Razor 4 wheel, then driven to hospital
-backboard would have been better
-had an internal emergency contact list, but outsiders (not at Valle) didn’t know that
Ethan recommended adding insurance to emergency contact list.
Zach recommends first aid as first class instead of XC, group agrees.
Steve recommends putting parking pass in car when flying so we account for all pilots.
Mateo brought up Santa Barbara buddy system for newer pilots.
Be careful flying new sites, especially “big” ones:
Laguna is the most dangerous in SD.
Elsinore can be like that.
Crestline: Lua Silveria
paragliding forum discussion
-flying at sunset
-acro close to the ground
-under the influence
Club cultures. Paraglider pilots at Crestline hotdogging near the ground. “If you’re doing acro close to the ground, you’re not doing it for yourself.” (You’re showing off.)
4 reasons to throw (Ethan)
Low altitude
Structural failure
At physical capacity (starting grey out)
Mid air collision, potential to tangle
Congratulate every reserve toss when you see it.
Steve recommends joining LiveTrack 24
Board business post meeting
-how to log in to USHPA for new board officers
-admin responsibilities with regards to filing risk docs
-benefits of a group/session moderator for club meetings
Laguna
- Laguna permit fees have gone up. We only need 2 things: Access to the Anza Borrego State Park launch, and landing in Earthquake Valley. For the past 10 years that has been $500 annually + $100 permit fee.
In 2018 it dropped to no annual fee, just the $100 permit fee. In 2019 permit fee remained at $100 but the annual fee jumped to $1,200. Bill H will coordinate with head ranger to see why fees have gone up. May have to do with them writing the permit up as an Event Permit vs Special Use Permit. We’re asking for the following us that has no facilities and required no overhead of park staff:
- Truck trail vehicle access to the Upper launch (mostly hangs)
- Waiver for 500’ over ground at launch/landing
- Ability to maintain trail & upper launch
- Ability to Land in Earthquake Valley LZ (in the ABSP)
National forest offices are closed due to govt shutdown (delays filing permit for Big Black and other sites)
Palomar
Pala Tribe has requested we not use the dumpster for loose trash after a trash problem following the last fly in. Anything that goes into dumpster must be bagged. Recycle bin is fair game for recycling.
Do not stay past dusk in Palomar. Use is for Day Use only.
Otay
Tom (hang glider) talks about Otay Mesa, states it’s “No more.” Brad and Ethan have flown it in the last month and said it was fine. Need to check with Josh Gelb for lock access at Otay
Little Black
Jeff - Update on weather station at Little Black. We're waiting to hear back from Ranger about the 3 possible places we can put it.
Blossom
El Cap weather station. Nik working with San Diego River Park Foundation to place a weather station on land they own or manage on El Cajon mountain.
Why not put a station on Blossom?
-Private land without permission
-Increases liability to owner and raises our profile unnecessarily.
-Anything we have put up at Blossom like site protocols have been vandalized.
Video demo of Blossom Google Earth site guide
General Request
Invite to members to post articles on the SDGHPA site, reach out to Steve R or Nik H with ideas.
New Board announced
(See blog post)
Minor issues:
Instruction at SDHGPA sites like Palomar is allowed as long as the School is PASA certified and registered to instruct at the specific site with SDHGPA. See SDHGPA Instruction Policies & Protocols for more information. Torrey or other non-PASA schools shouldn’t be instructing at SDHGPA sites 1- 6 in the Site guide (Sites with Additional Insured Landowners) until they become PASA certified and register with SDHGPA. This presents a risk to the Site, SDHGPA, and landowners. Those sites / Locations are:
- Palomar
- Big Black
- Little Black
- Laguna
- Horse Canyon (Anderson field LZ)
- Blossom Valley
We would like to coordinate with Torrey to have a path to the mountains for new Torrey pilots.
Darryl at Soboba has closed the school there.
Medical course proposed via David Hatfield
All parties interested.
Rough schedule for fly-ins and meeting topics
-skill progression classes (thermal, XC, gaggle fly, convergence, Laguna/specific sites)
Steve R discussion re P3 or P4 being ready for Laguna.
BBQ in LZ at Laguna has been done in years past in off months (Feb/March) that was OK for newer P3, otherwise it is really a P4 site.
Tom (HG pilot) curious about paramotors and the SDHGPA, given the comparison to jetskis showing up at a surf break
Situational awareness as the intro part of any class suggested by Brad S.
Next Fly In Dates
3 weeks out needed in order to submit notice
Feb 16th, annual awards ceremony.
Accident Lessons Learned
Max:
-in New Zealand
-complacent
-not having a ton of SA
-focused on a brake wrap
-crashed and broke his back
Marge:
Pilot Error
-impatient to do other activities
-state of mind
-put herself in a bad spot
-inReach out of battery
Factors in Speed of Rescue
-other pilots watching track logs
-checking with a flying buddy
-LiveTrack on her phone worked
-Phil Russman initiated search for THAT night (commendation/recognition!)
Contact Made
-hypothermic when found, facedown
-no med assessment performed on site by PG pilots
-unable to stand, only said “Shit”, staggered and fell
-carried to Razor 4 wheel, then driven to hospital
-backboard would have been better
-had an internal emergency contact list, but outsiders (not at Valle) didn’t know that
Ethan recommended adding insurance to emergency contact list.
Zach recommends first aid as first class instead of XC, group agrees.
Steve recommends putting parking pass in car when flying so we account for all pilots.
Mateo brought up Santa Barbara buddy system for newer pilots.
Be careful flying new sites, especially “big” ones:
Laguna is the most dangerous in SD.
Elsinore can be like that.
Crestline: Lua Silveria
paragliding forum discussion
-flying at sunset
-acro close to the ground
-under the influence
Club cultures. Paraglider pilots at Crestline hotdogging near the ground. “If you’re doing acro close to the ground, you’re not doing it for yourself.” (You’re showing off.)
4 reasons to throw (Ethan)
Low altitude
Structural failure
At physical capacity (starting grey out)
Mid air collision, potential to tangle
Congratulate every reserve toss when you see it.
Steve recommends joining LiveTrack 24
Board business post meeting
-how to log in to USHPA for new board officers
-admin responsibilities with regards to filing risk docs
-benefits of a group/session moderator for club meetings
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