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Nov 2021 Meeting minutes

11/18/2021

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A small turnout for a big discussion.  A "Learn & Fly" event was proposed, where the intent is to provide structure for the transfer of knowledge.  Scroll down for more.

PRE-MEETING
David Norgren: Is Elsinore good to fly at this time of year?
Steve talks about typical seasonal conditions there and how it’s not a great place to fly at this time of year and in Santa Ana Conditions. The Site typicaly starts to work well starting in May and on when the flats start getting into the 90s. Typicaly is best Spring & Fall.

Check the 2 Holfuy stations up there

Site updates
Bill Helliwell is working on Laguna permit updates
Special Event (not Special Use) permit.  Special Use gives us more ability to do maintenance to the site.  Laguna hasn’t had a full time staff member and it’s easier for them to have us fill out Event forms.

Still looking for meeting locations:  Any volunteers or venues?
A meeting room is fine, many restaurants/breweries have these for rent/free.
-Society Brewery in Kearny Mesa?
    -James A volunteers to check it out
    -third Thursday at 7:30 pm, 14-40 people show up
-community center in Scripps Ranch or Poway Community Center?

Weather Station Updates
-In Feb of next year, AT&T will drop 3G support
    -Holfuy has a new modem board, being tested in Phoenix AZ
    -a pilot (who?) in Bishop has set up LoRa weather stations, he may help guide us or help with programming
    -T-mobile might have a later sunset date in June
    -Anacapa anemometers?
    -Robb Milley has built an APRS solar powered weather station, volunteered to help.

Robb M, Nik H, and Jeff Brown volunteered to work together to find and implement a solution for this.

When do we want to have our first quarter Fly In & awards?
Proposed month of March, once local pilots have returned from their annual sojourn south to fly the fairer weather. 

Learn & FLy

In broad terms, the SDHGPA*** will organize an event (or events) that pairs pilots of unequal experience and presents them with a task to fly.  The senior pilot helps the junior pilot through the task, and the task is then scored at the end of the day. ***(However, the key think is that we would need a motivated individual to step up to be the Event Organizer)

Prize money and entry fees were discussed, and prize money was more or less roundly voted down, but entry fees seemed acceptable if retrieves, t-shirts, and food are provided. (however if having entry fees, would need to organize more and pull ACE event insurance.) (Prize money is problematic for getting Event Insurance unless pilots are at a Professional level)

Depending on the Scope of the event, we may need to pull Event Insurance for it.
PROPOSED SCHEDULES/ROTATIONS
Should this be a multi day event?  Proposals included a "week before" thermal clinic, followed by the event the following weekend.  

One issue brought up was that senior/junior pilots might not click, so having a rotating set of partners gives us all a chance to fly with more people and learn more.  Perhaps 4 events a year allow for us to do this?
SUGGESTIONS/IDEAS
A good model is the Utah Point Rat series: http://www.uhgpga.org/point-rat-series-2021/

Be careful with incentives.  The incentive should be to teach and learn. (again, may be problematic)

​Tokens for mentees, assignable

Tokens for mentors, assignable

Pairing pilots from top & bottom, hours/skills-wise, i.e, the top hours with low hours pilot

Groups of 2, 3, or 4?
Beginner/medium/advanced

Should there be a handicap to goal

Optional tasks?

Spot landings, points for landings

Mentors (volunteered by Robb Milley)
Ron Davis
Peter Hill

How do we handle organic groups forming “day of”?

Most improved personal best in XYZ area (altitude distance duration)

Long standing events
Point Rat series: A set of waypoints out front assessed with a certain score and all waypoints have a safe LZ.  Monthly tasks.

Meeting Agenda


1. Club Info & Updates:

             •Site info Updates
             • WX station updates
             • Learn & Fly 
             • Looking for volunteers for leading/ participating in panel XC / thermal discussions starting in Jan.
             •  date for 1st quarter Fly-in? Jan or Feb / March
2. USHPA renewal cycles for chapter renewals will open Dec 1st or 5th

-start annual review process for risk assessment    
    -update site guides
    -accident review
2. Topic: XC comp/ how to foster intermediate to advanced pilot skill ideas:
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SDHGPA Fall Harvest Fly-in 2021

11/4/2021

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 Saturday November 6th!  2021 at Palomar
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Come on out and share the sky with the San Diego free flight crew.  Dinner & soft drinks will be provided by the club; Please bring a Fall Harvest worthy appetizer, side dish, salad, fruit, dessert, or drinks you'd like to share throughout the day (BYOB).
SDHGPA Membership is required to participate in the Fly-in Event and to Fly Palomar.
Please take care of Memberships and print parking passes BEFORE driving out if not current.
Check Current Membership Status here.
All memberships are available online, here.  Please make you're paid up and print out your Parking Pass before you arrive. Let's work together to keep these wonderful sites available to the free flight community!

Please RSVP below or this link
Fly-in RSVP
Check back to this page for updates up to day of fly-in

​This will be a great event!!!
Rough Time Table:
  • 12:00 - General Meeting Time & Set-up in LZ
  • 1:00 - Drive to launch
  • 1:30 - Site intros on Main Launch
  • 1 - 5:30 - Launching 
  • ​~4:30 BBQ Set-up & Start Cooking
  • ~ 5pm - BBQ starts
  • ​5:55 Sunset

Site: Palomar​
Where: Palomar Main LZ  
SDHGPA Palomar Main LZ - Roberts Ranch, 15482 CA-76, Pauma Valley, CA 92061  map
Please review and read Full Palomar Site Gide for updates: ​​
Palomar Site Guide
​Key Points for the Fly-in
  • All Vehicles must display Current 2021 SDHGPA Vehicle ID/ Gate Pass
  • Best to take care of memberships before, otherwise will be signing up on your phone with poor connections . . .
  • Check In and Out at the LZ Table and or Launch for this event vs calling individually into Tribal Security.
  • Carpool to launch to minimized Cars on launch
  • Main Launch is preferred for this event
  • Keep all access gates locked and closed behind. (2021 Gate Codes)
  • Active Launch Windows: Use mountain etiquette - Only enter the Launch Windows with your gear if and when you are ready and intending to launch hooked in and hang checked/ pre line checked  (set-up and prep including hooking in and hang check in non active window areas.) Be mindful that there will be a lot of pilots on launch. Do not wait for the perfect Cycle, but rather take the 1st good safe cycle. ​
  • No top-landing or fly-troughs before 4pm
  • Right turn day in front of launch and up the main spine to Robbin's. However, normal thermaling rules take precedence.
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Palomar Main Launch Use Zones
  • If in Launch Windows or Top landing Approach areas, be cautious and aware of flight activities in all directions.
  • Do not enter Orchards . . . non-authorized Picking of Fruit is strictly forbidden and illegal.
  • COVID Guidance: Based on updated County & CDC guidance, Masks will be required when carpooling for all. If not fully vaccinated or uncomfortable in crowds, please feel free to wear a mask at other times & socializing. If not feeling well, please refrain from attending. (This may Change based on local CDC guidelines)

Please RSVP ​
​The Social Committee would like some help from some volunteers to help coordinate, set up, and break down.
Social committee would like some help from some volunteers to help coordinate food pickup, set up and break down. Also, if you have a Portable BBQ & Table that you would be willing to bring, that would be great. Ideally, we can get these things coordinated by mid day on the Friday before the event so that everything runs as smooth as possible on Saturday.
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